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Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1974-10-19

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Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1974-10-19

Topics Live concert

This show has been commercially released as "Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack"

Mississippi Half Step, Me & My Uncle, Friend Of The Devil, Beat It On Down The Line, It Must Have Been The Roses, El Paso, Loose Lucy, Black Throated Wind, Scarlet Begonias, To Lay Me Down, Mama Tried, Eyes Of The World-> China Doll, Big River Phil & Ned*, Uncle John's Band, Big Railroad Blues, The Race is On, Tomorrow Is Forever, Mexicali Blues, Dire Wolf, Sugar Magnolia-> He's Gone-> Truckin'-> Caution (Do Not Stop on Tracks) Jam-> Drums-> Truckin'-> Black Peter, Sunshine Daydream, E: One More Saturday Night, E: U.S. Blues

Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Winterland Arena
Location San Francisco, CA

Source Soundboard
Lineage SBD -> Reel Master -> Dat Master (Panasonic SV-255/48k) Transfer Info:Dat Master (Sony D8) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude v7.02 Professional -> Cool Edit Pro v2.0 -> SHN Patch Info:SBD -> Rough Mixes -> Cass -> Reel -> ? -> Dat -> Samplitude -> CD
Transferred by Charlie Miller


Recording Info:
SBD -> Reel Master -> Dat Master (Panasonic SV-255/48k)

Transfer Info:
Dat Master (Sony D8) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude v7.02 Professional ->
Cool Edit Pro v2.0 -> SHN (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs SHN)

Patch Info:
SBD -> Rough Mixes -> Cass -> Reel -> ? -> Dat -> Samplitude -> CD -> EAC -> SHN

Transfered and Edited By Charlie Miller


Reviewer: big cheese - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 21, 2016
Subject: to lay me down
to lay me down is so clean,it's magical
Reviewer: Incornsyucopia - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 30, 2016
Subject: Reply to AndyB123
"Whats going on during the whole Phil and Ned part? The beginning is great with the beats and scratches that make it sound like turntablism, but I know they we'rent making those direct drive Technics decks back then and DJ q-bert probably wasnt even born yet. The sounds are great.....but then it kinda wanders off on us...if anyone can provide info, I'd be much obliged."

Better late than never. I can answer your question as I discussed this specific performance with Ned in person. He's using an Arp 2600 synthesizer: "There’s a sequencer, but the sequencer is controlled by a program that sends it random or not random values that evolve over time...I built a rhythm box that synthesized rhythm sounds from popular electronics. Really. They’re tuned filters, resonant filters. They have high Q, they resonate when you ping them...I told Phil to come in after 8 or 10 minutes." Hope that helps. It definitely sounds a lot like music from many years later.

As for the performance and recording, 'nuff said: it's amazing.
Reviewer: mifraidin - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 1, 2016
Subject: Mama Tried
Fantastic show. Major vocal flub mumbling in Mama Tried at 00:21?
Reviewer: myheadisdead - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 17, 2016
Subject: Downloads?
Rad show. Anyone know the best way to download this show??
Reviewer: doug_the_dude - - November 19, 2012
Subject: Absolutely Irresistible -
It does appear that there are at least a couple of sources still available on the archive for this show; while we don't have the blissful, hour-long sets that go out of Seastones, we do have a show where everything is peppy, tight, a lot of sheer *fun*.

Set 1 highlight - of course, the Eyes > China Doll everyone is buzzing about. Yes, it's that good. I'm not a best "of all time" kind of guy, but this is pretty neat.

Seastones has a weird "rhythm section" for its first half, which gives it a kind of drive - you can hear the audience really getting into it on a full board.

Set 2 has the extended medley beginning and ending with Sugar Magnolia and meandering so nicely between themes - the Space Jam emerging from Drums is so delicate and lovely to listen to -

Really, these '74 shows from the run are almost pointless to award 'stars' to - it's one of the supreme runs the band ever did. One more night before the haitus -
Reviewer: gratefullydead - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 11, 2008
Subject: does anyone have a copy of this show?
Hi I have a copy of this show on tape, but the reels have just broken and no longer can i listen to one of my very favorite shows. Does anyone know where i might be able to find another copy of this whole show?? i will listen to it on tape if you can help please!! thanks
Gratefully dead
Reviewer: jakester76 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 20, 2008
Subject: The "Eyes"
I agree with the reviewer below, THIS IS THE BEST EYES EVER!! I had a cassette bootleg of this years ago and then lost it. What a sad time that was, until I found out they put out the Grateful Dead movie on soundtrack. So I bought the 5 disc set just for the eyes and 2mrw is 4ever. When I played the eyes, I was totally bummed because about 4 minutes of the song had been cut out of it. I remember what it sounded like and this was not it. Those 4 mins. were crucial jerry jams that i needed to hear. the compilation "So Many Roads," has the eyes from this show on it, and its the whole 18+ min. not the 14 min. this soundtrack has.
Reviewer: dwill1188 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 18, 2005
Subject: 1974 Winterland
THE BEST EYES OF THE WORLD OF ALL TIME. this is the show that makes up about half of the grateful dead movie. however, the movie only includes portions of the eyes....AHH! i would download this show just to get this version of eyes.
Reviewer: 3chrds - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 1, 2005
Subject: Tommorrow is Forever
Yes...yes. Makes ya break down and cry. Jerry and Donna. Dolly and Porter. In a Playboy interview from the earlier days, the interviewer sits down with Jerry and they both are overcome by a Dolly record Jerry has put on. Right on Jerry, for reminding me that music at its best, is for everyone.
Reviewer: AndyB123 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 11, 2005
Subject: Whats going on
Whats going on during the whole Phil and Ned part? The beginning is great with the beats and scratches that make it sound like turntablism, but I know they we'rent making those direct drive Technics decks back then and DJ q-bert probably wasnt even born yet. The sounds are great.....but then it kinda wanders off on us...if anyone can provide info, I'd be much obliged
Reviewer: L. Rosley - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 16, 2005
Subject: The Golden Age of the Dead
Good sound, an amazing first set, a wonderful Eyes of the World, an Uncle John's Band with a deep jam, a recently revived Caution DSOTT, tight Jerry songs throughout, Jerry's voice at it's prime, and a clean, rocking ending. What's not to like?
Reviewer: Lewis/Klitschko - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 14, 2005
Subject: Every '74 gets a five
The show that stands out at Winterland for being the most song-oriented on a VERY jam-filled week. Don't let anyone tell you they were getting tired in October. It's the most mellow month, to be sure, but the jams are as exploratory as ever. Jerry's playing with a warmer tone and an advanced melodic touch even for a year in which he excelled in both. Perhaps the tone of the guitar presaged 11/20/78's.

Some people talk about the jam in the second set, and it's nice, but I consider even 10/20 to be more jammy.

As far as the jam portion of this show goes, the "Eyes" stands out for me, not the "Caution."

"Mama Tried," "Tomorrow is Forever," "Scarlet," it is these little songs that make the night. It's a stop in the bar before getting back in the canoe for one last romp in the jam flume of October (10/20).
Reviewer: jfk62 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 5, 2005
Subject: Dancin' in Winterland
This recording puts you THERE! The sound of the instruments and vocals sounds like a soundboard recording, but there is ALOT of "good" crowd noise (clapping and chearing) that gives the recording an audience tape feel. The effect is of standing in the front row hearing the band cooking on stage with the audience going nuts around you. You HAVE to listen to this one and download if you dare - you may not listen to your other CDs again.
Reviewer: boogieblues - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 31, 2005
Subject: EYES
DO yourself a huge favor, if you havent heard this eyes yet, listen to it! Why is this eyes not hailed as hands down best ever?????
Reviewer: iriedancer - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 8, 2005
Subject: Very pretty show!
The vocals on this show are out of control. Some damn hot keys too!!! Loose Lucy and Dire Wolf are awesome! Definately worth checking out. This show is making my miserable rainy day at work a whole lot better!
Reviewer: fitzy77 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 6, 2005
Subject: Jerry Ballad Night
If you think you're not a huge fan of Jerry ballads (e.g. To Lay Me Down, Black Peter, China Doll etc.), think again. They are all rendered beautifully here. Good sound and a nice gently grooving show from start to finish. Not a half bad download.
Reviewer: vogonity - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 5, 2005
Subject: Garcia Vocals
This show has the best Garcia vocals I have ever heard. 'Roses and "To lay Me Down."... damn.
Reviewer: skwimite - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 4, 2005
Subject: Goosebumps
One of my all-time favorite jams, Magnolia thru Black Peter(with a little Caution no less) is one for the ages. Also fine Eyes > China Doll. Uncle John's Band was downright emotional in that old barn, but doesn't exactly come across on tape. Probably a good thing Phil & Ned doesn't either. It was SO loud it was scary! Felt like sound was emanating from inside skull. This could be a good show to cherry-pick, but I can't. Gotta have it all. 5 stars for me, 4 for you.
Reviewer: vadead - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 7, 2005
Subject: Might As Well
I can't believe that people still nitpick about sound quality of shows from 31 years ago. These shows are FREE and better than the original tapes I've had for years. The music is great, why not enjoy what you have!!!
Reviewer: Ole Uncle John - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 19, 2005
Subject: Just Do It!
Go ahead and download this bad boy. Sure there are sound issues, sure it sometimes sounds like your head is stuffed in Billy's drum kit, but who wouldn't gladly endure that to be there at the Winterland for the retirement run??? Heart felt Roses and To Lay Me Down, and an Eyes so sweet you simply can't sit still and listen to it.As an added bonus there are many times Donna is completely lost in the mix as in the Scarlet jam.
Reviewer: sumobaby - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 3, 2005
Subject: good
all i can say is set list!!! alot of my favorite songs are here and that is reason enough.the sound quailty is not bad but there is some audience noise. nice and tight good jams, its worth having.
Reviewer: lchange43 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 16, 2004
Subject: songs from steal your face
sounds like they used a few songs from this night to be on the steal your face LP ,great recording sounds like you are right in the front what a sound back then no one will ever duplicate this era so many great shows and good times although i never could get into the phil and ned thing but why not
Reviewer: ccrawford33 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 28, 2004
Subject: Farewell '74 Night 4
This night alone could've been filmed and released as "The Grateful Dead Movie". It's amazing! Everybody knows this show because of it's anghellic "Eyes" and I also thought "Uncle John" and "Loose Lucy" were on track. Download it. It's worth the 3 discs
Reviewer: REA04 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 23, 2004
Subject: Sometimes the light's all shining on me......
There are moments here that are as good as any GD you'll ever hear, and it feels like they're right in the room with you. "He's Gone" is fantastic, "Eyes" is jamtastic. There's also some moments where the sound is really weird--Jerry's guitar sort of disappears into the echoing distance at points--but overall, well worth having.
Reviewer: rongmvw - favoritefavorite - September 17, 2004
Subject: OverRated
I wasn't impressed at all. The sound is clear but way off balanced. It was a long show but I don't feel a very inspired one. I never got the sense of any flow at all.
Reviewer: socal - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 17, 2004
Subject: Nice one here
I agree - I really like this recording. It has that Europe '72 ethereal sound. Jerry's guitar comes in at all angles and the overall sound is very clean.

To make things better, they are inspired, fearless, and out to prove a point this night. They are in no rush, but still manage to charge through the whole show.

The extented Truckin' jam is a highlight. Def. worth adding to your collection.
Reviewer: floydtrane - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 7, 2004
Subject: Yes Sir
All I have to say is: if you don't have this show, why not?
Reviewer: blak0102 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 12, 2004
Subject: The Grateful Dead Movie
Some of the songs from this show appear on 'The Grateful Dead Movie'... including one of the greatest 'Eyes' ever. You can really hear Keith on this mix which great - adds depth to the material.
Reviewer: micropolyphony - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 4, 2004
Subject: grab this one folks
this sbd is much better than the other matrix-esque board. too much reverb/echo in the other tape. this one still has some audience in the distance but it is soooooooooooooooooooooo fucking crisp and fantastic. in fact, it's one of the better sounding boards from 74! grab this one folks.
Reviewer: dcain - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 8, 2004
Subject: Crisp recording and....
The vocal's, Garcia's guitar, and KG's piano are upfront in this mix. The singers ---- e.g., Weir on Mexicali --- sound like they are standing three feet in front of you. This is one of the few times (and the last) they did Tomorrow is Forever, and with the apparently retiring, you understood why. With the beautiful structure of this song, and its lyrics, it's not a mystery why Garcia took to it, and the band choose to try it out. Dire Wolf is played like a slower, fatter late 70's ballad; Garcia takes two solos. He has only brief one moment in the sun during Magnolia.
Reviewer: DanK - favoritefavorite - April 23, 2004
Subject: Dry & distorted
The multitrack version of this show blows this away. The upper end of this one is clipped and distorted. The other source is really musical -- sounds like you're there!
Reviewer: Jeffrey-O - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 19, 2004
Subject: A little crisper than the multitrack board listed on this site!
Download this show, the sound is better than the Mulitrack soundboard on this site. Also, Some of the tracks from this show were used in the "So many roads" box set & "Steal your face" LP.
"This a great all around Dead show!"
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